tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32643111.post7366919172843136930..comments2024-03-04T22:23:43.352+08:00Comments on The Lectern: Fragment 618Murrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03405708736012286214noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32643111.post-22065829505931914902007-07-02T12:33:00.000+08:002007-07-02T12:33:00.000+08:00Perhaps. But if you put any two words together in ...Perhaps. But if you put any two words together in a meaningful way (not simply at random), that is a structure.<BR/>In my view, with Lakoff, the Deep Structure of language is the underlying conceptual framework.<BR/>But I do agree that most words have a utility which is greater than their meaning. Their utility is a kind of shorthand which establishes conventional meanings between giver and reciever.<BR/>Iris Murdoch said:<BR/><I>Only simple things can be said without falsehood: ( she means phrases such as pass the milk) The whole language is a machine for making falsehoods.</I>Murrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03405708736012286214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32643111.post-90631300613528661952007-07-02T12:32:00.000+08:002007-07-02T12:32:00.000+08:00Perhaps. But if you put any two words together in ...Perhaps. But if you put any two words together in a meaningful way (not simply at random), that is a structure.<BR/>In my view, with Lakoff, the Deep Structure of language is the underlying conceptual framework.<BR/>But I do agree that most words have a utility which is greater than their meaning. Their utility is a kind of shorthand which establishes conventional meanings between giver and reciever.<BR/>Iris Murdoch said:<BR/><I>Only simple things can be said without falsehood: ( she means phrases such as pass the milk) The whole language is a machine for making falsehoods.</I>Murrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03405708736012286214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32643111.post-92108985485568486932007-06-22T11:44:00.000+08:002007-06-22T11:44:00.000+08:00"...with a series of disparate spectra...to help t..."...with a series of disparate spectra...to help the user build the primary structure."<BR/><BR/>Perhaps one of the reductionist "phallacies" about Words is that they are part of a meaningful "structure". Perhaps Words have a utility, and a Meaning, quite independent of any Superficial/Deep Structure. This search for meaningful structure is the Sysyphian Stone which even Chomsky has stopped rolling.keylawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134596750620373075noreply@blogger.com